Curse

Gun Pierson · Apr 29, 2009, 10:25 AM // 10:25

If there's one thing in this game that I learned, then it is not to play someone else's game. I even tell real life friends to stop bugging me with their survivor crap.

Stolen Souls · Apr 29, 2009, 11:35 AM // 11:35

People like that should get a title called "Coward", instead of "Survivor". How are you a "Survivor" if you avoid all your fights, and have others play your game for you? Likewise, the ones that do Killroy over and over should get "Grinder" instead of "Survivor". xD

When he asked to play his game for him I would have said I realized I had other things to do, and left. Being nice doesn't get you very far here, anyways.

AngelWJedi · Apr 29, 2009, 11:35 AM // 11:35

Yeah i know how you feel we have people like that in our alliance. asking for runs everywhere, asking for 20+ questions,free stuff all the time. Now i dont mind helping people but after the 100 plus whine from the it gets on my nerves. worse 9/10 they never say thank you or when someone asks them for help they seem to be sooo busy.

i tried for survivor the "proper way" 3 girls tried all died at r1 or halfways to r2 due to lag.

then i tried it the cheap way with kilroy. and stupid me i was working on her during a weekend event and what do you know 80k ping spike and died.

*sigh* it seems every time i make a survivor lag makes me its B****.

TheodenKing · Apr 29, 2009, 12:57 PM // 12:57

OP: You are an enabler. The kid is getting alliance members to do the work for him. And when you stop, he'll probably leave for another guild where he can mooch some more. In your current situation, the way to stop this behavior is discuss it with an officer(s), and they can have a word with him. Or, you can just say, "sorry, I'm busy." Or you can give him tips on how to get survivor alone.

qvtkc · Apr 29, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbeh The Mad

This happens about once a day.

I'm standing in LA or Kam trying to hock whatever I have at the time for gold and someone in alliance chat will say "Can I have help on a mish?". I'm helpful, I'm nice and I like to help the new kids with the game so I tell them I'm on my way. When I get there they'll say "I'm going for survivor, so can you do the mish for me while I stand back and not die?"

Accept, then drag Togo/Rurik/etc into a death trap.

Konker2020 · Apr 29, 2009, 02:44 PM // 14:44

It's people like these and the ones that farm Kilroy's and any other means of a simple survivor title that make my and many others hard-earned survivors (AKA the old fashioned way), look like nothing, now it seems like a useless title b/c every just farms them...

Aldric · Apr 29, 2009, 03:08 PM // 15:08

I came across a Survivor in Unwaking waters the other day. He was on the other team that spawned on his own with H/H and told me once we started (I think had assumed he would get a hench party to help him and so could exit at quick notice) so i just told him to micro his heros and stay well back out the way until it was done.

I dont mind people like that and was glad to help but leachers just annoy the crap out of me and If i was the OP I would have told him to sod off.

I only got 1 survivor at the mo (lotsa deaths from stupidity though) and I did that in missions/quests with my H/H , nothing worse than ditching on a PuG becuase you might die.

legacyofkain85 · Apr 29, 2009, 03:14 PM // 15:14

survivor is a title fooder for gwamm.

Tullzinski · Apr 29, 2009, 03:17 PM // 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stolen Souls

People like that should get a title called "Coward", instead of "Survivor". How are you a "Survivor" if you avoid all your fights, and have others play your game for you? Likewise, the ones that do Killroy over and over should get "Grinder" instead of "Survivor". xD

Exactly, but I would wait for them to go AFK then bring a group of monsters right to him and leave the mish.

ShadowsRequiem · Apr 29, 2009, 05:14 PM // 17:14

I did LS with henchies and heroes b4 eotn came out it was pretty easy. People must suck in your alliance.

oracle.delphi · Apr 29, 2009, 05:24 PM // 17:24

maybe you should change your post to why SOME people going for survivor annoy you. I am doing survivor on one char the good old fashioned way, ie playing the game not punchout. And while i may ask for help, i don't leech, I just warn the person helping me i may zone if I get too close to death, and I hang back a little bit, ie I'm not running up grabbing the aggro like a dork. So the people in your alliance are cheating...i mean that's even worse than the punchout, at least you have to do the punchout yourself.
but don't generalize not all survivor peeps are morons...honest

Sarevok Thordin · Apr 29, 2009, 05:50 PM // 17:50

I don't really care about LS at all, because to get it requires a specific mindset of play that deviates from the norm and (mostly) disrupts other people around you.

It wouldn't be so bad if the title were to get so much exp WITHOUT DYING IN ONE GO, but the fact it requires you to NOT DIE AT ALL puts player's fear factor into overdrive.

Then again, thank god for being able to be choosy with teams huh.

Eragon Zarroc · Apr 29, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40

tell him to do the shit himself or else he doesn't need survivor title. survivor title isn't a title everyone else does for you, lmao. should have taken him on the 2nd mission and tried to kill him ;-)

Seraphim Angel · Apr 29, 2009, 07:04 PM // 19:04

Nice guys finnish last

I tell them if they can beat me 1v1 with that character ill help them out

. I hear yea it is VERY annoying at times. If i get the sense that they are trying to take advantage of my assistance I just tell them sorry im busy.

Moloch Vein · Apr 29, 2009, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Survivor is the most disgusting title in the game, due to the terrible behavior it inspires out of people.

I suggest we change the title names for the different tiers.

Rank 1: "Survivor" : "Coward"
Rank 2: "Indomitable Survivor" : "I Can Run Very Fast From Battle"
Rank 3: "Legendary Survivor" : "I Lived Through The Searing And All The Charr Ever Saw Was My Butt"

MisterB · Apr 29, 2009, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbeh The Mad

Survivor is a cool title, yeah.

I would dispute this.
F12+C.
Hurray.

Commander Kanen · Apr 29, 2009, 10:59 PM // 22:59

IMO if you cant do it yourself without dying, you dont deserve the title. (unless it really isnt your bad like a 007)

But dont get other people to do stuff for you.

Skyy High · Apr 29, 2009, 11:09 PM // 23:09

I've never seen the behavior described in the OP. =/

lg5000 · Apr 29, 2009, 11:18 PM // 23:18

All of this reminds me why I play with h/h. There is no way I'd risk my survivor on a random pug who may or may not have someone in it who's got a thing against people attempting the title. (I also don't display the title until its maxed out due to that paranoia).

Not farming it/leaching of others makes the game, and that title, more challenging.

free_fall · Apr 29, 2009, 11:43 PM // 23:43

Sounds like you're more upset with selfish, lazy, inconsiderate people than Survivors, per se.

I would think that most of us get our titles the old-fashioned way - we earn them.

You don't usually encounter us in missions or quests because we tend to not play with other people.

My first W to get LS got it via hfff at Lutgardis. I figured that was ok since I'd managed to get him there; however, after having gotten LS on 2 other chars entirely on my own, I felt that getting it that way cheapened the title in my eyes, so I made another W and got the title by earning the XP myself, without anyone's help.

It's really not that hard to get the title using H&H, provided you play carefully. It simply takes a while. And when you're done, you feel that you actually did accomplish something.